Tryingtoexit Welcome to the board - you will receive much support here. Its looks to me you are doing things right - you have done your research and started dealing with facts. I was an elder and resigned October 2007, last meeting was February 2008. I did months of detailed research just like yourself - the meetings became unbearable - I just wanted to scream at the top of my voice. When I told my wife I was leaving she was heartbroken. The good news? When she saw the evidence she left as well - Woo Hoo! You are at the brink of some major decisions and it will be an emotional/ mental rollercoaster but it is oh so worth it - there is light at the end of the tunnel... The Scotsman
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*Everyone Please Enter, I'm New Here*
by tryingtoexit ini've been lurking in the shadows of this forum for about 6 months or so.
i'll try to be brief here, but i apologize in advance if this is not "brief enough" for you.
anyways i'm a 27 year old african american young man, i was born and raised a jehovah's witness.
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The Watchtower hates Scotsmen
by kurtbethel inbecause i have carefully looked over every picture and representation i can find of the so called paradise earth published in the last 30 years.
there are people in all sorts of clothing from many cultures, american casual, african, asian, hispanic, and others.. but i have not seen a single image that shows you kilt wearers will make it into the new systemtm!.
does that make you so angry that your sporran stands on edge?.
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Its a valid point - I am writing a short letter of complaint at this very moment - goes as follows -
Hey GB
Gonnae gee us a brek and huv a kilt shuvved intae wan a yer paradise pictures. If yae dinnae dae this am gonnae chuck yer pamflets intae the wheelie bin.
p.s. - Whit is aw that 1914 mince on aboot?
English Translation -
Dear Governing Body
Could I please request that a kilt be inserted into one of your paradise pictures. If you do not do this I will have no choice but to throw your literature in the bin.
p.s. - Could someone please explain the 1914 doctrine to me?
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I'm new, let me introduce myself
by no lies please ini've been lurking here for many months.
i served as an elder for many years, and regular pioneer for much longer until recently.
i'm also a mts grad and was used extensively on the circuit and district level.
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Welcome to the board. Well - I can relate to your situation very much. I went through a similar experience (as many here have). But we survived, it was not easy, but we came out the other side better people - and you will to. May God bless you.
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Man vs. God... Wall Street Journal article. "Evolution has indeed dealt a blow to the idea of a benign creator".
by whereami inyou know this article is going to be quoted in some watchtower rag as showing that religion is going to be eliminated soooon.. .
http://online.wsj.com/article/sb10001424052970203440104574405030643556324.html.
karen armstrong says we need god to grasp the wonder of our existence.
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Oh God - not another pro evolution thread..........
Richard Dawkins is as fanatical as any religious leader - and he is qouted WAY to much....
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What do you think - are most ex-JWs atheist, agnostic, or still involved in some form of religion?
by lifelong humanist ini dad 6 years ago because, after a rational search came to the conclusion that there probably is no god.
shortly afterwards, i concluded that (for me) there is no god, which made me feel that i really was a natural-born humanist - a position that i'm entirely comfortable with.
i know that many former jws hold a similar, atheistic viewpoint.
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My experience with the JWs certainly destroyed my faith in the WTBTS - but not my faith in God. I am in no hurry to affiliate myself with any religious group of any kind - I do not think I need to - but maybe some day I will. I wonder, of all those who leave high control groups like the JWs, how many become non-believers - I suspect quite a high percentage. As long as people are happy in there life they can believe anything they want to believe - each to there own... Missing Link said - Atheism is the obvious "truth". How can this be true? Can you prove God does "not" exist? If not - its not an ""obvious"" truth....
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Do You Believe In "God"?
by minimus ini know many people simply think that believing in a "god" is simply ridiculous.
i don't.
i can't necessarily "prove" that god cares, or that god exists but i'll tell you what---when something awful happens i do pray to god and hope for the best..
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Absolutely YES, I believe in God!
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When will they realise that the bus isn't coming?
by eyeslice ini was still a kid and living at home at the time, and so that must have been well over 30 years ago, that i heard ron drage (now a senior member of the uk bethel) say "if you are waiting at the bus stop it, is better to be 10 minutes early rather than miss it".
what he was referring to of course was the then then 1975 issue; in other words armageddon has arrived yet but it just round the corner and we are a little early for it.. i don't know what brought this to my mind the other day but i got to thinking, surely if you are waiting for a bus and you get there 10 minutes early and it doesn't then turn up, how long do you wait?
10 minutes, 15 minutes, half an hour, an hour, two hours?
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Most will wait until the day they die.
They think the bus is bringing them never ending life on a paradise earth - in there mind its worth the waiting.
It certainly was worth waiting for in my mind until -of course - I realised the bus was not coming.
Well, thats not quite right. I still think the bus is coming but it will come for all of us - but i am not waiting for it anymore.
It will turn up when its due.....
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Jehovah's Witnesses "snapping" under pressure, their flawed doctrine must be sending people "over the edge"!
by the research lady inin the last year the watchtower's public relations department is being inundated with inquiries concerning jehovah's witnesses and their bizarre behaviour.
the recent murder and cannabalism of a three week old baby is the latest in a series of ongoing horrific news articles linking jehovah's witnesses to acts of violent crimes.
http://www.seattlepi.com/national/408515_baby28.html?source=mypi what is causing these problems?
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Hey snowbird - you said - """"Down here, the churches are feeding people, clothing them, repairing the homes of the elderly, tutoring kids and taking them to amusement parks. Why, last Saturday, with the temperature shooting for the hundred mark, I passed one church and they had kids handing our free bottles of ice-cold water!"""" -- I have thought about this alot. JWs are told that the best thing they can do for there neighbour is offer them a bible study or a watchtower magazine. The churches do so much more for the local community, offering genuine help.
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Littlebird's Introduction "Hi!"
by littlebird inhi, i've been lurking hear for awhile and just registered this week.
you're an interesting bunch and i look forward to getting to know you better.. i started studying with the jw's when i was 16. i was dating my husband, 10yrs my senior, and he heard they had the truth.
i was in an abusive household, so i moved in with him, studied, got married at 17 and baptised at 18.. i believed in it hook, line and sinker for 22 yrs.
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Welcome to JWN It is such a strain on everything when someone exits the JWs. When I first told my wife I was thinking of leaving she burst into tears and pointed to a beautiful picture on the wall ( a man and a woman walking through countryside) She said - I thought that was us in the new system! My heart was broken in 2 and I was not sure how things would pan out. After I had stopped going we had a sit down to discuss the matter - I showed her some of my evidence (UN, child abuse etc) 4 months later she stopped attending meetings. The key is to "try" and have a calm conversation about it - you never know - it might get him thinking.
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Atheists choose 'de-baptism' to renounce childhood faith
by whereami indo you think the wts would except this?.
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2009-07-21-atheists-debaptism_n.htm?csp=usat.me.
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""" most atheists don't even give a rats ass about those matters, and don't have any unified "practices """. Who mentioned "unified" practises??? At the moment it appears that de-baptism is a practise of "some" atheists. Religions do not have "unified" practices. """ It seems to me you want to group all non-believers together in one group to make it convenient to hate them """. A truly laughable comment!!! The classic "grouping people into one group" is from the atheist community - all religion is a hateful evil that tarnishes the world.